I could go on and on but I don't think it would make a difference. It continues to boggle my mind that the GOP, a party that for all of my life had been an enemy of Russia turned around and embraced it. I wonder why.
No it was debunked. It was always a conspiracy theory without evidence. I have read the Mueller report, it says no evidence was found of conspiracy (collusion). I can do better than regurgitating links at you and making handwaving claims about how I could go on and on, I can quote you verbatim passages which say just that.
Where is all that "ample evidence" that Adam Schiff, as chair House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, repeatedly claimed to have seen that provided Trump colluded with Putin to hack the election? He has seen it all, it's an open and shut case, so why did he go so quiet about it? Did Putin get to him too?
Obviously he has nothing and never did.
I've pressed people for specifics about this, and the only "evidence" they have been able to provide is Trump's "Russia if you're listening" speech, which is an obvious joke.
> I have read the Mueller report, it says no evidence was found of conspiracy (collusion).
You absolutely did not read the report, you listened to Barr’s brief lie about what was in it. There were endless examples of collusion and people in Trump’s inner circle found guilty of collaborating with the Russian government.
Let me guess, you also think Paul Manafort did nothing wrong?
“Just left Ukraine. What I saw proved to me we can’t give up on the Ukrainian people. Everyone wants this war to end, but any agreement has to protect Ukraine’s security and can’t be a giveaway to Putin. Let me tell you about my trip and why it’s important we stand with Ukraine.” - Mark Kelly
Musk replied directly to that post: “You are a traitor.”
Kelly fired back the next day:
“Traitor? Elon, if you don’t understand that defending freedom is a basic tenet of what makes America great and keeps us safe, maybe you should leave it to those of us who do.”
Musk later doubled down in media appearances, stating that putting “the interests of another country above America” makes someone a traitor.
I don't see Musk making those statement about US helping the interest of other countries.
It seems like stopping Russia from being an aggressor is in the direct interest of the US. Why would Musk think otherwise?
> It seems like stopping Russia from being an aggressor is in the direct interest of the US. Why would Musk think otherwise?
He is entitled to his own opinions.
From a business perspective Russia is a bigger market than Ukraine for Starlink. And since have no political color, it makes sense for him to not be pro-Ukraine that much.
And lastly, what is in the interest of the state is not neccesarily in the interest of people and vice-versa.
Did you collude with Putin today by not traveling to Russia to attempt to assassinate him or die trying?
Did Biden collude with Putin by not launching nuclear attack against Russia when he was President?
Did Obama collude with Putin when he secretly transmitted a promise to be "more flexible" with him after his election presumably in return for unspecified favors, then later meekly capitulating to Putin's annexation of Crimea?
Just because somebody does not take the most drastic or damaging action they possibly can against another, does not mean they are colluding with them or sympathizing with them. What an infantile worldview.
