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Yet another blow to the confidence of flying in this country.


This comes to mind how during the Boeing news scandals, commenters would confidently argue "Flying is still ridiculously safe, statistically speaking", "these things happen every day, just underreported", and "you/people are irrational for not flying Boeing". It's a very curious argument to me. Is the ATC infrastructure issue analogous or not, etc.


You can view the actual data and control for your own recency bias one way or the other. I see data from 2005 - 2024 trivially accessible.

https://www.ntsb.gov/safety/Pages/research.aspx


You can have both. I.e. complain about safety breaches, push to get back on track safety wise, but still decide to fly as it is safe enough. Guess it is being practical.


It is strange. What is importa t is, are things getting better or getting worse? As they say, it’s not the fall that kills, bit the impact. Are we falling?


Maybe US media, hardly an unbiased news source about US events, especially when hundreds of billions are flying around about incompetent massive employer and lobbyist.

Nowhere else in the world you would hear such statements. Boeings simply disappeared from Europe, those few that were here before. I am sure they are still used somewhere but I haven't flown any in past 7-8 years. Heck, I haven't seen any in South east Asia neither (but that may be due to luck).

I check this with all bookings, no way I am flying that piece of shit if I can anyhow avoid that, not alone and quadruple that with family.


> Boeings simply disappeared from Europe

That is just simply false. There are many boeings flying in europe. Just by randomly clicking around on flightradar24 I found multiple right now in the air.


Ryanair are the biggest airline in Europe and they exclusively fly Boeing 737s.


More accurately, the risk has increased by at least one order of magnitude, but the confidence of the public has largely stayed the same.


Source for the risk going up by 10x? Wild claim


Grok how many people die on their commute to work in their deathtrap cars

Grok timed out but here is perplexity

Per 100 million miles traveled

    Car driving: ~0.57 deaths per 100 million miles (recent U.S. data).

    Commercial air travel: ~0.003 deaths per 100 million miles.
This means driving has roughly 190 times the fatality rate per mile as commercial flying in the U.S.

umm u should never drive again. in fact never leave your apartment/house.


You're not going to die in a car crash.

You're going to die of heart disease caused by your poor diet.

You should never eat again. No, wait, stop, I mean...


I mean thats my diet irl ;)




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