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[flagged] Netanyahu's cybersecurity official arrested in Vegas in child sex sting (theguardian.com)
47 points by nujabe 8 months ago | hide | past | favorite | 22 comments


Normally (at least in the US) intelligence personnel are heavily vetted for this sort of thing, as a pretty obviously vector for blackmail etc. I wonder if the role, apparently "executive director of the Israel Cyber Directorate" did not need a real security clearance, or if it just wasn't detected?

(Also unclear why he would have been released)


I'll guess that maybe this job is less so about qualifications and he knew the right people and they trusted him.


I think its pretty clear why he was released.


I guess it's like vetting the secretary of education for ... well, you know, having some idea of what she's talking about?

https://gizmodo.com/trumps-education-chief-linda-mcmahon-rep...

More seriously, I have worked for a few years as a consultant in upper government and here's how it works: the upper levels of government know what they're doing. But there is a level where it switches from career bureaucrats to appointees and elected officials. You can CLEARLY tell exactly where this line is without having to look anything up). You can also clearly tell by the pay. The difference between levels is like 10-30% per level, then the level where it switches to mostly appointees there's a 200% jump and then a 500% jump where it switches to elected officials. Or that's how it works in the EU.

Did you know that most governments have strict pay levels? Which suck for any position other than parliamentarian or government minister, and even there ... Which has the funny consequence that as a EU safety inspector, the director level (which is an appointed position) you make more than the German chancellor. Not too far from the French president either (not including side benefits, like the housing). Which I guess it what leads to people like the current French president, because the idea that he wants that position for the prestige, or out of patriottism is just completely absurd. One can wonder what the guy does want. But, I guess the same is true of Trump ...


I worked with Brussels for one of the 'h2020' projects, that checks out. COVID didn't change anything.

And this high level of pay have _no_ impact on corruption. Zero. None. In my experience, it's the opposite even.

Bureaucrats keep saying 'i don't think that's a good idea, let's ask the experts we hired what they think' and the elected/appointed official say 'lets do it anyway, my friend as SAP/Atos say we're good'.

French are the worst also, but maybe because I feel like Atos is the worst company that ever existed and appointed officials call them for everything. You want some subvention? Use 85% of it to buy their bullion shit, as well as their service contract (which is them basically sending mails to redhat because they're incompetent fucks). They hire incompetent at all levels. The few who aren't probably leave early.


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> After all Israel is the wakanda of pedos.

I thought that was any religious institution in the US and abroad! Nice to know that Christian priests and conservatives don't have monopoly on abusing children. /s

- https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/articles/c74103d3971o (3 days ago)

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_c... (so prominent, that they have wiki page)

- https://home.crin.org/readlistenwatch/stories/sex-abuse-data... (Poland)

- https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67238572 (Spain)

- https://www.bbc.com/news/world-64626077 (Portugal)

It seems all the pedos in the world are either connected by religion, being war criminals and genociders (Israel), or simply rich (Trump/Clinton/Epstein).


Or they're teachers: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=teacher+sex+with+pupils&ia=web

Or maybe no conclusions can be drawn without per-capita offense rates. Of course it's interesting that there are not many articles about sex offenders fleeing to other countries, especially since Israel has such a small population.


Or, really, they are Christians: https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S01452134240033...

Cause statistically, a Christian man in a leadership position (i.e priest/pastor) is much more likely to be a child abuser.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S014521342...


A study limited to organized religious institutions, in a country where, of all religions, Christians are the overwhelming majority, found that most of the abuse occurred in Christian institutions? What a shock. It even omits how many of the respondents were from which religion (despite including such a breakdown for respondent age), so we can't work out per-capita numbers.

But despite trying very hard to work backwards from a conclusion, the study is not entirely useless - it contains two pieces of actual information: it reported that 0.4% were sexually abused by an adult or leader in a religious institution, and that boys were 8x more likely to be abused than girls.

So we can conclude that children are 10x more likely to be abused by a public school teacher [1], and that homosexuals are 8x more likely to abuse than heterosexuals.

[1] An earlier survey of 4,340 adults examining sexual attitudes and experiences reported that 4.1 percent of respondents had a physical sexual experience with a teacher. - https://www.ed.gov/sites/ed/files/rschstat/research/pubs/mis... page 18


Nah, the study shows there is a reason there is a whole wiki page for all the cases of abuse by the church. It's an epidemic, enough to see a correlation and stereotype that priests are the most likely offender. It's even in pop culture, when you think of a child abuser, who do you think of: a priest, right?

I wanna dig into studies about conservatives which also are major child abusers. Maybe the people with a conservative faith and a conservative political stance have a big overlap, there must be studies for that. I will do the research and get back to you.



> Tom Artiom Alexandrovich, 38, faces felony charges of luring a child with a computer for a sex act

> He has since evidently been released from custody and returned to Israel.

That is a terrifying level of criminal impunity. If I was an Israeli citizen, I wouldn't feel very safe knowing these sorts of people are protected by the government.


And it was Nevada police using Nevada law, which would exempt minors age 16, 17 and 18

So this guy was involved in the investigation with someone aged 15 or younger


In the US, people of age 18 are adults, not minors.


Yes, couldn't edit after 2 hours


So they let a guy charged with a felony who was an obvious flight risk out on a $10k bond, didn't even take his passport, and he just hopped on his return flight home? What a joke. Israel does not extradite, so he's effectively home-free now.


Released and allowed to return to Israel. That's some horrific level of impunity.


Same level of impunity that had this post flagged while its 100% factual.


Also posted here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44929630 under updated title.

Neither flagged but also not returned by search. Unclear why.


I was wondering same, was thinking about making a Tell HN thread

This thread is flagged btw


It wasn't at the time of my comment.

Search seems to be having a general issue for anything within 2 days.


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Until the country collapses.




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