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So how is it possible, that I can run unsigned, unnotarized applications on MacOS?


That is one of the reasons why businesses must have security software monitoring your entire system on macOS, but not on iOS.

On Windows, people literally just give everything they install complete root access to their entire system when installing applications, might as well bring that to iOS too, right?

You’re not making the point you think you’re making. There’s a lot more danger using macOS/Windows than iOS, and the people who interact with computers at work aren’t given administrative access for a reason.

I can grant anything access to my iCloud Keychain on macOS, do you honestly think iOS users should be able to press a button to allow this if a random app requested it? Do you even think they will know what that means? Now imagine if unsigned applications could access keychain like on macOS. How well do you think that will go down?

Apple drew the line at consumer safety, and developers hate that they can’t abuse their powers like they do everywhere else.


> On Windows, people literally just give everything they install complete root access to their entire system when installing applications, might as well bring that to iOS too, right?

UAC prompts get in the way, and if the user account isn't an admin the app can't do anything.


> That is one of the reasons why businesses must have security software monitoring your entire system on macOS, but not on iOS.

Because it is not even possible on iOS, so false sense of security

> On Windows, people literally just give everything they install complete root access to their entire system when installing applications, might as well bring that to iOS too, right?

You have not used Windows for looooong time, otherwise you would know that this is not the case since Windows 7 and not the case at all on Domain (enterprise) Windows since Windows XP

> I can grant anything access to my iCloud Keychain on macOS, do you honestly think iOS users should be able to press a button to allow this if a random app requested it? Do you even think they will know what that means? Now imagine if unsigned applications could access keychain like on macOS. How well do you think that will go down?

Of course, why not. Are iOS user dumber than MacOS users?

> Apple drew the line at consumer safety, and developers hate that they can’t abuse their powers like they do everywhere else.

This has nothing to do with safety, but with users demanding support for their iOS toys, while refusing to acknowledge, that if Apple bans me from App Store for whatever reason, all the money spent on iOS support are now running down the drain.


It’s clear you have so little knowledge of the area you’re trying to talk about there’s not really a point in continuing.

The real world isn’t a computer, and Apple is held responsible for user mistakes.

Remember the fappening? Apple never let users make security decisions on their iPhone again and forced MFA.

You’re talking about walking back decades of platform security because you want to be special, which by the way, everyone who does this for a living agrees with Apple here, including Google. That’s why they’re making Rooted phones worse experiences, 99% of people cannot be trusted with the sort of access you’re talking about, and Google knows that.


> It’s clear you have so little knowledge of the area you’re trying to talk about there’s not really a point in continuing.

I am developing for Windows, MacOS, Android and iOS. Please continue explaining me how I know nothing about it.


Yeah, it'd be terrible, awful, horrible if we could run the software we want on the computers we purchase. I've been installing software on WIndows without an infection since 2002, probably before you were born and I've been using third party Android app sources for various projects and products for a full decade without a single unwanted malware like behavior other than obnoxious notification spam. Yeah, tell me how much danger I'm in from my Windows and Android software, child.




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