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if the safety net was too comfortable I doubt I’d have ever felt the need to climb out of it

Americans have been conditioned into accepting a staggering amount of abuse and into perpetuating that abuse.



Come on, dude. Accusing people who disagree with you of having been brainwashed is a pretty weak discussion strategy.


At least people can overcome abuse and thrive off of it. I don't know a single person who had an extremely cushy childhood who is 'on fire' for anything or striving for greatness.

You need adversity to be great. Not all adversity is abuse. The American dream is about overcoming and flourishing to the limits of your will power, taxing people who have succeeded to provide succor to people who don't care about themselves is corrosive to the national spirit. Come visit some time, I'll show you around.


And yet despite all the talk about the American Dream, social mobility in the US is uncommonly low amongst the Western democracies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_mobility#/media/File:Th...

The US is right there with deindustrialized Britain and Italy with its massive North-South divide. These are not exactly models to emulate.


>I don't know a single person who had an extremely cushy childhood who is 'on fire' for anything or striving for greatness.

You could argue our current president had a pretty cushy childhood. Not sure if he's 'on fire' or 'striving for greatness' though.

Social mobility is heavily determined by a combination of race, IQ, gender, social-class, where you were born, and physical / mental health. All of that is dictated by luck when you are born. Our ego tries to convince us that we're "self made" but for the most part life is determined by "luck of the draw".


>You could argue our current president had a pretty cushy childhood.

I think this kind of proves my point, people with cushy childhoods seem to turn out not great. I'd imagine he'd be a more effective leader if he spent more time overcoming adversity.


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Please keep this sort of flamebait far away from HN.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


> Paris is burning. New York is not.

And Occupy movement happened on Mars.


Did you actually go to Zucotti park?

I went back in 09 and it was effectively equivalent in my mind to a big swap meet or a hippie craft faire. Light years of difference between that an firebombing riots.


If Paris is burning, New York is a room full of gasoline.




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