This whole situation goes to show that yesterday's conspiracy theorists are today's realists. What's happening to USA's leadership and as a country and what's happening with with their top companies is really scary for the rest of us. If this trend continues we're all definitely gonna end up in a kleptocracy.
Hard disagree. Vibe coding isn't responsible for people not doing the slightest due diligence when running this (pardon my French) shit. You can vibe code stuff and keep it at a much higher quality. And you can check who did the vibecoding and how they approached it, so the burden also falls on the person running the stuff to understand what they're running. This isn't an enterprise level application that has a full team behind it that had an issue. This is a pandora's box vibecoded overnight for fun, full of stuff we don't even know about, that was opened the moment you touched it with a stick.
In my experience, most garden variety security problems stem from a) the developer not understanding the implications of something (maybe because they’re new, or operating outside of their usual domain,) or b) the developer not paying close enough attention to realize they did something they know is stupid. We’re only human.
Vibe coding obviously doesn’t make something insecure, per se, but saying it doesn’t reduce the attention paid to any given line of code, or encourage less knowledgeable people to write code, seems pretty dubious to me.
The Claude Code team is clearly competent and professional, yet they accidentally published the proprietary source code for one of the world’s hottest products. That’s like a Bank manager walking away with the keys in the door and alarm disarmed. When’s the last time you heard of a human team of developers doing that?
Again, I’m not saying that vibe coding necessarily creates unsafe code, but I don’t see how anyone could say vibe coding was devoid of security implications. I think this is an organizational/logistical problem that we’ll figure out at some point, but in think it’s going to be more of a C buffer overflow ‘figured out’ that never really goes away.
Very reasonable take, I agree 100%. But I don't you're putting any responsibility with users of the such very vibe coded apps. OpenClaw was primarily marketed towards devs and people in touch with IT. They should know better.
Sure. I reckon blaming the system for the intentional actions of a few is a great way to avoid individual accountability. Conversely, blaming many individuals for fundamental systemic or leadership problems is a great way to avoid accountability for leaders and systemic beneficiaries. It’s not rational to exclude either.
I’m also not sure that the distinction of dev makes much of a difference in this space because chatbot marketing works pretty damn hard to imply everybody is a prompt away from being a developer. How are those people going to know that they aren’t even qualified to make any given technical decision, let alone evaluate the output of a confident chatbot that’s magically writing programs for them?
Vibe coding means you don’t (or can’t) read the code. It does not mean anything an agent writes is vibe coded.. If you’re reviewing the code after the agent writes it, you aren’t vibe coding.
Steinberger has said he doesn’t look at (most) the code.
I love diagramming, but I genuinely don't understand how people can use these wonky looking tools. It looks off, I had to make my own[1] to create something that's easy to use and looks good/normal.
I like the wonky, hand-drawn looking style. I think it fits well beause usually if I use a diagram it's not 100% precise and accurate, but more a high-level illustration. The wonky style conveys the approximate precision of the presented concept.
I agree 100% it's personal, wasn't trying to imply anything else, but for me the style takes away from the actual content and makes it harder to read/grasp.
Excalidraw has a 1 click 'sloppiness' change. We do drafts and ideation in 'full sloppy' mode, to indicate to the reader that this is not fully thought through, or a final documented decision. Once we've gotten through discussions and analysis, the final diagram is changed to be 'not sloppy', and the font changed from handwriting to a san serif font.
It's pretty effective to immediately communicate to folks that 'this is a concept' approach. Too many people instantly jump to conclusions about diagrams - if it's written down it must be done / fixed / formal.
Depends on what you want to achieve with your look. Do you want to scream professionalism, authority, and completed?
Use a regular UML tool.
Want to say this is a rough draft of a few ideas? Then using UML is probably THE wrong look. And Exaclidraw should be used instead.
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Anecdote time. According to one of my professors, they showed how the prototype will look in action, and the customers were so impressed by the smoke and mirrors prototype they wanted to start using it right away.
In the end, customer walked away because they thought they were being strung along to pay for something that was already done.
I absolutely love it that you can import mermaid. I love mermaid because I'm a huge fan of anything related to code that can I check into git, track its evolution and the thinking that went behind it.
However, those who don't know mermaid have to struggle with updating my diagrams. Your approach, atleast in theory, should get us the best of both worlds. Mermaid for those who would like to and the mouse for those who don't.
This also addresses the issue that large complex diagrams can get unwieldy using Mermaid and moving things around with a mouse would fix those edge cases.
Click the AI button in the toolbar to copy the Grafly format reference.
Paste it into any LLM (Claude, ChatGPT, Gemini…) along with a description of the diagram you want.
Copy the JSON the LLM returns.
Click the Import JSON button () in the toolbar and paste it in.
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Super user friendly as well! I don’t even understand the instructions on how to use it.
In the upper right there is an import/export button that could be used for this. It's stored in localstorage so you could also dump that to wherever you like.
edit: added link to the repo in the about modal.
edit2: added import export of the entire localstorage entry on the bottom of the diagrams(left) panel.
A while ago I made this to get content from websites for reading in pdf. With what I use (Supernote) you can have an automated script to pull articles in the morning and put them in a dropbox folder that automatically syncs with the device.
It's really funny how people can say these things online without giving them a second thought. There are literal weapons being produced that are killing people daily. But no, it's the meme generator that's evil.
Because this is a tech forum, not a weapons forum. I'd wager that a sizeable chunk of folk decrying AI/LLMs in this manner also do, in fact, decry the same weapons you refer to. They just do it elsewhere because it's not typically on-topic here.
Context is tech, I agree. Is there no tech in weapons? Palantir? Drones? Are there developers that are proud when they made the kill machine 1% more precise; more optimized?
I think the evil part is putting it in the hands of the general public. The ability to create propaganda and deep fakes gives everyone a powerful tool for manipulation. The rich and powerful are going to do whatever the want, anyway. Everyone having access to that same tool doesn't make it any less dangerous.
There's nothing inherently evil about a knife. Standing outside of a high school and handing a knife to every kid walking in is pretty evil though.
This has been possible for pretty much the entire history of humanity. The bar has been lowered, but not by a lot imho.
I don't disagree on the rest, and I didn't say there aren't bad uses, but there are many many good uses for AI/Sora. You can't say the same for weapons.
violence at scale is often facilitated by and preceded by propaganda at scale, which is one of Sora’s only applications. Certain things are obvious to normal people, like “propaganda is real, powerful, bad, and historical of enormous significance”.
How well you interact with other members of a society increases your chances of procreation, survival, knowledge acquisition, ie. it makes sense as a measure of intelligence
It's a pretty ambiguous definition. The most powerful man in the world right now is not someone I consider a role model for social cognition and yet there he is with the football for the second time demonstrating grandmaster skill at social cognition to get there.
So in all seriousness with a bit of snark: Do you want a malevolent AGI? Because "good at navigating society" as the only benchmark here is how you get a malevolent AGI...
Evidence: cuckoos and cheaters all the way down the evolutionary ladder as a winning strategy and arms race against the hard workers.
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