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backend devs needing to be fullstack but consider frontend to be beneath them


join after the A if you care about money. Join before the A if you are uniquely mission aligned or technology aligned, e.g. it’s 2016 and you want to work in VR, and aren’t optimizing for money right now. Early stage is fun and you’ll learn a lot and that’s about it.


skill issue


Yes. It’s like people who say they can’t cook. They just don’t want to.

Anyone should be able to follow a recipe. And UI design generally follows recipes. Because UI’s simply suck when they don’t follow conventions.


Many people very much cannot cook because they have poor kitchen skills (or even none at all).

"Anyone should be able to follow a recipe" is far from reality, especially since the vast majority of recipes are not written for the kitchen illiterate.


Nobody is born with "kitchen skills" whatever that means. You have to spend some time learning it, and everybody can do that. Trying to explain chopping onions as "kitchen skills" is just running away from the challenge.


Jumping to conclusions about what "kitchen skills" means aside, the fact that nobody is born with them is precisely the point. Congratulations, you understood it!

Slightly less facetiously, "anyone can follow a recipe" makes about as much sense as "anyone can follow a README". Is it some arcane black magic that only a select few can decipher? No, but at the same time if you don't recognise that there is a baseline level of technical literacy needed to actually follow your average README then you might have your head stuck too far in a bubble.


Following a readme on a github project is obviously a very technical skill and conflating it with following a cooking recipe where the complexity level is around "chop onions" is a strawman, I haven't claimed such.


Cooking is very much a technical skill, much more so than following a readme to install and set up some end-user-targeting project or other. I've seen too many flat-out horrendous meals from people who self-describe as "knowing how to cook" to be convinced otherwise.

Have you looked at a typical recipe recently? Here's an example (https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/oriental-egg-fried-rice) from the "quick and easy" section of BBC Good Food, a site that's regularly in the first page of search results for various recipes. Never mind that it expects you to have procured cooked chicken breasts from somewhere (and oh boy are those easy to turn into a bland, dry, rubbery mess if you don't know what you're doing)...do you honestly think there is no room in those instructions for someone who does not already know how to cook to screw it up?

Here's a recipe (https://urbanfarmie.com/instant-pot-jollof/) for a more complex dish that I am intimately familiar with, which is how I can tell you for absolutely free that if you just "follow the recipe" as described you will very easily end up with a soggy mess at best and burnt rice at worst.

Or - since you seem to like patting yourself on the back about onions - the next time you're following a recipe and it tells you to "sweat" or to "caramelise" onions or "sauté until golden", maybe spare a thought for how likely it is that someone who is actually new to the kitchen will get the correct result.


>Cooking is very much a technical skill, much more so than following a readme to install and set up some end-user-targeting project or other

Talk about bubbles


That's a wonderful way to dodge the point entirely, keep it up!


Cooking is so easy, everyone who has hands, can read a book and a clock can do it. Start with eggs or pancakes, work your way up from there.

My kids learned to cook from age 9. Now everyone can cook in this household.

I can’t take any adult who says it’s hard seriously, especially since I grew up in a culture where I heard a myriad of excuses from ‘manly man’ who think of it as a woman’s job.

It’s lame and it says a lot about them.


That's an interesting analogy. I can't make proper UI but I can cook fine so maybe I should learn more about UI.

Any good source of design recipe to share?


Refactoring UI is a well known book for learning about design as a developer [0]. It's co-written by Adam Wathan of Tailwind even before he made Tailwind. Steve Schoger, the other author, refactors UIs on YouTube [1] which you can take a look at too, lots of good tips there and he talks through each one and visually shows you what changes and why.

[0] https://www.refactoringui.com/

[1] https://www.youtube.com/steveschoger


This would be my exact recommendation.


Thanks, I'll give it a look.


I think the guy you responded to was making a joke. "skill issue" for Linus Torvalds.


Timing imo. I think the tech labor market bottom is in the past, venture capital is flowing again, companies that over hired have corrected it, interest rates are on their way back down, and a bunch of huge IPOs are lining up for 2026 - Stripe, OpenAI, Anthropic, SpaceX, Databricks, Canva, Discord - which is going to inject a bunch of liquidity into tech capital markets. And the jury is still out on AI, very much at the top of a hype cycle, CEOs and boards have prematurely declared to their customers and the world that AI is working (because saying that makes their stock price go up) but the enterprise outcomes don't seem to be there.

My advice to your daughter: to try to make software into a fun hobby, watch a ton of coding youtube, AI and youtube are tearing down hurdles to learning, make a twitter, talk about your hobby, farm those likes. What were her favorite courses at MIT? it's true that software is increasingly competitive and yet the barriers to becoming competitive are ever lower (FOR those in a supportive environment who can make space to take advantage)


ai trash read commit log


Dear MS please use AI to autocomplete my billing address correctly when I fill out web forms, thanks


i don’t get it either - bun being the foundation of tons of AI tools is like a best possible outcome, what were they hoping for when they raised the money? Or is this just an admission of “hey, that was silly, we need to land this however we can”? Or do they share major investors and the therefore this is just a consolidation? (Edit: indeed, KP did indeed invest $100M in Anthropic this year. I’m also confused - article states Bun raised 26M but the KP seed round was 7, did they do the A too but unannounced? Notably, the seed was summer 2022 and chatgpt was Nov 30, so the world is different, did the hypothesis change?)


companies are already wasting majority fractions of their engineering labor spend on coordination costs and fake work, through that lens i have trouble making an argument that any of this matters. Which is why they are able to do it. I’m reminded of an old essay arguing that the reason Google spends so lavishly is because if they only spent what they needed, they would appear so extraordinarily profitable that the government would intervene.


are you happy with ClojureScript?


I'm afraid it depends on whom you ask. Some devs really like it, some others don't. As we move towards a more multilingual stack, everyone will be happy and the product will shine even brighter. I don't code in ClojureScript (or Clojure) so I can't answer directly. Here's a nice blog post though (on why Penpot chose Clojure) https://community.penpot.app/t/penpot-chose-clojure-as-its-l...

The new rendering engine is wasm + rust + skia, in case you're curious.


we get paid to add to it, we don’t get paid to take away


Now there is your problem. It is only true in the context of grave incompetence, though. I have worked on tickets with 'remove' in the title.


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