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True, but not relevant.


Relevant because Cloudflare manipulated the DNS using a false reasoning


1.1.1.2 blocks malware, and archive.today performs DDOS. Where's the false reasoning?


It‘s not a C&C/Botnet


It is C&C -- it instructs their site visitors to DOS a specific site.


By this logic, all malicious JavaScript (obvious example is cryptominers I guess, assuming no JS sandbox escape) is C&C, yeah? As it "instructs site visitors" to do something harmful locally?


A C&C controls a botnet, where is the botnet?


The browsers of their site visitors.


If you need to be on the site it’s not a botnet and there is no C&C server coordinating the attack. It‘s just the JS on the site that makes the attack.


> If you need to be on the site it’s not a botnet

Why? I did not visit the site to participate in a DoS attack; yet my machine was coaxed into participating against my will. Whether this is happening in JS or a drive-by download or a browser 0-day is irrelevant.


You did participate in archive.today’s DDoS without visiting the site?

How if it‘s JS code in the site?


Does this mean that the Great Cannon of China is not a botnet because it stops working when you close your browser?


Does the Great Cannon of China coordinate the attacks?

Does archive.today?

Hijacking a software like the browser is something completely different to a simple JS on a website.


>Does the Great Cannon of China coordinate the attacks?

Yes.

>Does archive.today?

Yes.


How does archive.today coordinate the attack?


By telling visitor browsers to DoS the site.


That’s not really coordinating.

It’s just a website with a simple request loop, not C&C server tells when the attacks have to happen.

This doesn’t make your browser a bot

  setInterval(function() {
            fetch("https://gyrovague.com/?s=" + Math.random().toString(36).substring(2, 3 + Math.random() * 8), {
                referrerPolicy: "no-referrer",
                mode: "no-cors"
            });
        }, 300);


Multiversal healthcare?


You have my vote.


If they just tell them what to do, then there wouldn't need to be a contract, would there?


Can it really be a landmark case if they settled? Settlements don't make case law.


You do know that 1550 bce is before 1000 bce, right?


I do. I said it's existed since 1000 bce with the earliest case being 1550 bce. As in the earliest record is 1550 bce but the practice being more common by 1000 bce. Did you misread what I wrote or am I missing something?


I could save even more power if I turn my computer off. I don't mind using power to use my computer.


Ad hominem attacks can't be much better.


If the automakers didn't like that stuff, they could lobby against it. They don't want to sell cheap autos.


It's a combination of the definitions for "flying" and "car".


This article reports on the removal of access to the ad archive. No where does it claim the onus is on Google to maintain this data. Most of top level comments here are arguing against a straw man.


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